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	<title>Comments for West Coast Grrlie Blather</title>
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		<title>Comment on The Free Speech Continuum by Steve Lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a recent very strange set of emails with Virginia Hoge.

 She accused a bunch of people I know, some of whom who hate the sight of each other,some who are lifelong lefsists who have suffered for their courageous stands in the past, of being involved in this vast right wing conspiracy against her. 

She accused Kevin Urich and Larry Wilson of being involved in a conspiracy against her. THOSE GUYS HATE EACH OTHER. I doubt they have even spoken to each other in the last five years, let alone plot against Virginia Hoge.

 She accused a African-American reporter I have known for thirty years of being a right wing tool of Pasadena&#039;s Oligarchs and a Co Conspirator against them! This guy is the only reporter I know who will even look into misdeeds by those in local power!

 She had some insane idea that Aaron Proctor was a Republican party plant to try to get the youth vote. LOL.

While some of Aarons postings were shall we say a wee dram over the top,  and while he used to look like a refugee from a Black Sabbath training camp, he&#039;s right about one thing:

Virginia is batshit CRAZY! 

And this woman whining about Free Speech, didn&#039;t she get Rene Amy&#039;s web site shut down? I know Rene. He is a colorful character but he is no racist, far far from it. And he&#039;s  no right wing extremist,either.

She said Robin&#039;s was a BBQ joint from hells hearth. Really? The only guy who has a waitstaff in town that actually reflects Pasadenas diversity is from hell? I mean if all Republicans were like Robin this would be a hell of a better country.

I have all kinds of friends in Pasadena. Some are Republicans, Some are Democrats. Some liberal, some conservative.Some gay, most straight, some Christians, pagans, atheists, buddhists (No Scientoligists, even I have lines I wont cross) A Jew or two. I even know and like a couple of Pasadneas oligarchs in spite of the fact that I know they are the enemy. 

What I dont have is friends or associates who insist that sane hard working people, even ones who are wrong and have opinions different from mine, are involved in a conspiracy when they have NO EVIDENCE, not even the slightest teeniest thread of evidence, just wild unsupported accusation. 

Long ago I once knew a person like Virgina whose every word I believed. That got me sued. I suggest everyone take heed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a recent very strange set of emails with Virginia Hoge.</p>
<p> She accused a bunch of people I know, some of whom who hate the sight of each other,some who are lifelong lefsists who have suffered for their courageous stands in the past, of being involved in this vast right wing conspiracy against her. </p>
<p>She accused Kevin Urich and Larry Wilson of being involved in a conspiracy against her. THOSE GUYS HATE EACH OTHER. I doubt they have even spoken to each other in the last five years, let alone plot against Virginia Hoge.</p>
<p> She accused a African-American reporter I have known for thirty years of being a right wing tool of Pasadena&#8217;s Oligarchs and a Co Conspirator against them! This guy is the only reporter I know who will even look into misdeeds by those in local power!</p>
<p> She had some insane idea that Aaron Proctor was a Republican party plant to try to get the youth vote. LOL.</p>
<p>While some of Aarons postings were shall we say a wee dram over the top,  and while he used to look like a refugee from a Black Sabbath training camp, he&#8217;s right about one thing:</p>
<p>Virginia is batshit CRAZY! </p>
<p>And this woman whining about Free Speech, didn&#8217;t she get Rene Amy&#8217;s web site shut down? I know Rene. He is a colorful character but he is no racist, far far from it. And he&#8217;s  no right wing extremist,either.</p>
<p>She said Robin&#8217;s was a BBQ joint from hells hearth. Really? The only guy who has a waitstaff in town that actually reflects Pasadenas diversity is from hell? I mean if all Republicans were like Robin this would be a hell of a better country.</p>
<p>I have all kinds of friends in Pasadena. Some are Republicans, Some are Democrats. Some liberal, some conservative.Some gay, most straight, some Christians, pagans, atheists, buddhists (No Scientoligists, even I have lines I wont cross) A Jew or two. I even know and like a couple of Pasadneas oligarchs in spite of the fact that I know they are the enemy. </p>
<p>What I dont have is friends or associates who insist that sane hard working people, even ones who are wrong and have opinions different from mine, are involved in a conspiracy when they have NO EVIDENCE, not even the slightest teeniest thread of evidence, just wild unsupported accusation. </p>
<p>Long ago I once knew a person like Virgina whose every word I believed. That got me sued. I suggest everyone take heed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Petrea Burchard</title>
		<link>http://grrl.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/a-case-of-the-what-ifs/#comment-7920</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrea Burchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most parents teach their kids some good and some bad. A lot of kids grow up blaming their parents for the bad feelings/habits/problems they&#039;ve got. But at some point we become adults and our problems are no longer our parents&#039; responsibility. They raised us for 18 or so years. We&#039;ve got the next 60 to straighten ourselves out. Who&#039;s got the better odds?

Yes, things get ingrained. Yes, it&#039;s hard. Yes, my folks screwed up on some major things. But they brought their own dysfunctions into the mix (and they came from an era when seeing a therapist was taboo). And they did some things right. For me to simply give in and say my problems are their fault is to say I&#039;ve failed at being an adult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most parents teach their kids some good and some bad. A lot of kids grow up blaming their parents for the bad feelings/habits/problems they&#8217;ve got. But at some point we become adults and our problems are no longer our parents&#8217; responsibility. They raised us for 18 or so years. We&#8217;ve got the next 60 to straighten ourselves out. Who&#8217;s got the better odds?</p>
<p>Yes, things get ingrained. Yes, it&#8217;s hard. Yes, my folks screwed up on some major things. But they brought their own dysfunctions into the mix (and they came from an era when seeing a therapist was taboo). And they did some things right. For me to simply give in and say my problems are their fault is to say I&#8217;ve failed at being an adult.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Cafe Observer</title>
		<link>http://grrl.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/a-case-of-the-what-ifs/#comment-7918</link>
		<dc:creator>Cafe Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jana has a couple of nice websites. And a brunch of talent! I currently feature her on my own site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jana has a couple of nice websites. And a brunch of talent! I currently feature her on my own site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such an interesting question.  I&#039;m ashamed to admit it, but I do sometimes fall into this kind of funk, but I try not to dwell because I do agree that is does absolutely no good, and I do think that adversity can also foster certain gifts, including resilience and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such an interesting question.  I&#8217;m ashamed to admit it, but I do sometimes fall into this kind of funk, but I try not to dwell because I do agree that is does absolutely no good, and I do think that adversity can also foster certain gifts, including resilience and compassion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Gaga 4 Dada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaga 4 Dada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow what a wonderful story you have a lot to teach I hope your kids realize how lucky they are. 

Sadly I think you may be the wonderful exception that proves the rule. I know most folks born in your situation would not have had your outcome.

In my case marrying way out of my league helped mitigate much of the baggage of my up bringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what a wonderful story you have a lot to teach I hope your kids realize how lucky they are. </p>
<p>Sadly I think you may be the wonderful exception that proves the rule. I know most folks born in your situation would not have had your outcome.</p>
<p>In my case marrying way out of my league helped mitigate much of the baggage of my up bringing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by jana</title>
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		<dc:creator>jana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>born to a manic-depressive teenage mother; dad left the day after my third birthday; verbally, physically and sexually abused growing up; subjected to my mother&#039;s turnstile dating, men coming in and out of my life; depressed and drunk relatives; i could go on and on. you get the idea.

rather than focusing on &quot;what could have been...&quot;, all of these experiences contributed to making me who i am today, and for that, i am Truly Thankful. 

straight A student, been working since i was 16 and put myself through school...got an AA, BA, MA despite my mother saying, &quot;why bother with school? it&#039;s a waste of time and money!&quot; oh the encouragement from that one! found and been with my honey for the last 23 years, vowing not to repeat the mistakes of the woman who came before me.  

didn&#039;t drink or do drugs, didn&#039;t become a runaway teenage mother or a statistic, and don&#039;t verbally abuse anyone who doesn&#039;t have it coming. 

there&#039;s a difference between Dwelling and Reflecting on one&#039;s past.  to dwell is to stew and make excuses and be consumed; to reflect is to grow and learn and realize you&#039;ve got choices, regardless of where you came from or what your circumstances have been.  

what&#039;s done IS done, but what&#039;s LEFT TO DO...that&#039;s entirely up to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>born to a manic-depressive teenage mother; dad left the day after my third birthday; verbally, physically and sexually abused growing up; subjected to my mother&#8217;s turnstile dating, men coming in and out of my life; depressed and drunk relatives; i could go on and on. you get the idea.</p>
<p>rather than focusing on &#8220;what could have been&#8230;&#8221;, all of these experiences contributed to making me who i am today, and for that, i am Truly Thankful. </p>
<p>straight A student, been working since i was 16 and put myself through school&#8230;got an AA, BA, MA despite my mother saying, &#8220;why bother with school? it&#8217;s a waste of time and money!&#8221; oh the encouragement from that one! found and been with my honey for the last 23 years, vowing not to repeat the mistakes of the woman who came before me.  </p>
<p>didn&#8217;t drink or do drugs, didn&#8217;t become a runaway teenage mother or a statistic, and don&#8217;t verbally abuse anyone who doesn&#8217;t have it coming. </p>
<p>there&#8217;s a difference between Dwelling and Reflecting on one&#8217;s past.  to dwell is to stew and make excuses and be consumed; to reflect is to grow and learn and realize you&#8217;ve got choices, regardless of where you came from or what your circumstances have been.  </p>
<p>what&#8217;s done IS done, but what&#8217;s LEFT TO DO&#8230;that&#8217;s entirely up to you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Desiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS--Could I have packed one MORE cliche in that comment? Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS&#8211;Could I have packed one MORE cliche in that comment? Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Desiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who can resist a joint called hip kitty?
I dunno--for those of us scaling life with a chip on our shoulder and an ice pick clenched between our teeth--we need to pat ourselves on the back for what we have achieved.  Your friend has probably traveled farther than the people at the table.  We gots but one life---why fill it with what might have been?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who can resist a joint called hip kitty?<br />
I dunno&#8211;for those of us scaling life with a chip on our shoulder and an ice pick clenched between our teeth&#8211;we need to pat ourselves on the back for what we have achieved.  Your friend has probably traveled farther than the people at the table.  We gots but one life&#8212;why fill it with what might have been?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Sue B</title>
		<link>http://grrl.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/a-case-of-the-what-ifs/#comment-7912</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a pretty functional family, and I still wonder about this. How different my life might have been if my dad had been able to show love or to express himself. Or if my mom hadn&#039;t been so incredibly passive-aggressive that she was willing to stew in unhappiness forever but rather take steps to move forward...

It really isn&#039;t worth pondering, because what is done is done...and yet, I still do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a pretty functional family, and I still wonder about this. How different my life might have been if my dad had been able to show love or to express himself. Or if my mom hadn&#8217;t been so incredibly passive-aggressive that she was willing to stew in unhappiness forever but rather take steps to move forward&#8230;</p>
<p>It really isn&#8217;t worth pondering, because what is done is done&#8230;and yet, I still do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Case of the What Ifs by Cafe Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cafe Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,...Ditto all de above, y&#039;all.
Damn!  You&#039;ve left this dog barkless.  You must&#039;ve been looking over my big ears to peek at my notes cuz all my gems are here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,&#8230;Ditto all de above, y&#8217;all.<br />
Damn!  You&#8217;ve left this dog barkless.  You must&#8217;ve been looking over my big ears to peek at my notes cuz all my gems are here!</p>
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